'It is from society and not from the individual that morality derives' (Durkheim 1974: 61). According to Emile Durkheim "morality begins with the membership and life of a group... and society creates all moral codes, not individuals" (Durkheim 1974: 37). He stated that an individual cannot exist without society nor deny it, without denying himself. Zygmunt Bauman however disagrees and believes that morality is a pre-social impulse and therefore does not originate in society. In this essay I will first explore Durkheim's theory of morality. I will then interrogate Durkheim's claim that moral values ​​come from society and are directed exclusively at society by examining Bauman's critique of his theory exemplified in "Modernity and the Holocaust" (Bauman 1989). I will also explore Bauman's use of Weber as a way forward in his critique of Durkem's theory of morality and the “civilizing process.” Finally I will also explore Bauman's change of ideas after writing "Modernity and the Holocaust" by examining his new way of thinking exemplified in one of his most famous works "Liquid Modernity". This essay aims to challenge and evaluate the criticisms and competing theories of both Durkheim and Bauman as social theorists, and critically examine the opposing ideologies. Durkheim's conception of morality is summarized in the chapter "The determination of moral facts" in his work "Sociology and Philosophy (Durkheim 1974) in which he argued that morality is a social force and that it is a product of collective conscience. Morality arises from society through social interaction. Durkheim argued that social integration depends on its recognition by society. He states that "to observe the nature of moral facts... in the middle of the paper... Bauman advances this criticism of the theory Durkheimian theory of morality by making use of Max Weber's theory of bureaucratization and civilized society". Bauman argues that Weber's work helps to reveal the ways in which bureaucracy has the capacity to put an end to rational action and moral thought by making morality systematically immune to processes overseen by irrational norms. Here he again uses the Holocaust to describe how a "civilized society" could use bureaucratization to systematically administer and orchestrate the genocide committed by the Nazi regime. After "Modernity and the Holocaust", Bauman refers to a new type of modernity called "liquid modernity" to describe a more liquid form of social life. Bauman now believes that the liquid or fluid society is not based on a solid structure but rather on a liquid society that has no structure and is unsystematic.